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中国疾控中心原副主任杨功焕:要告诉一线社工和志愿者怎样照顾病患、保护自己

2020-02-06 来源 :公益时报  作者 : 文梅

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《公益时报》:从目前的公开数据来看,疫情发展的态势和你近期的观察预判出入大吗?是否乐观?

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《公益时报》:除了火神山医院,现在我们又启动了方舱医院接收病患,但医疗资源毕竟有限,不可能无休止地盖医院、增加病床。如何在现有的基础上有效控制疫情的进一步蔓延?

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《公益时报》:现在居家隔离的方法是否足够安全?我们看到有些病例,比如老人疑似染病,全家照顾,尽管也有基本的防范措施,但老人确诊入院之后,其他家庭成员又疑似染病。这种情况下到底应该怎么办?

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《公益时报》:现在疫情防控已经下沉到了社区,目前担当相关任务的主要是大量的社工、公益组织的志愿者等。从疾控的角度来看,你觉得他们怎么做才是帮忙不添乱、真正起到良好的辅助作用?

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《公益时报》:据了解,近年来国家疾控系统的人才流失比较严重,现在一线真正疾控专业出身的人员占比并不高。长此以往,会有哪些问题?

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《公益时报》:这些人做了什么?

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《公益时报》:对目前疾控工作者整体待遇偏低的现状,你有什么建言吗?

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